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No respect for Z4/Z4M?

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by TomF, Oct 13, 2012.

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    TomF BMW EnthuZiast

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    Having recently acquired a Z4 M Roadster I couldn't help but notice that the different Z4 chassis variants aren't completely and properly represented in the forum descriptions.

    In the Z Series Forums there is an "E85 Z4 (2002-2008)" sub-forum which is the Roadster, but no mention of the Coupe, the E86 Chassis. I propose renaming this forum to "E85/6 Z4 (2002-2008)". The Z3 variants are properly represented as the "E36/7 (1998-2003)" sub-forum.

    In the M Series Forums there is a Z Series sub-forum and in that sub-forum there is an "E86 Z4 (2002-20088)" sub-forum which is the Coupe, but no mention of the Roadster, the E85 chassis. This almost implies that the Z4 M Roadster isn't actually an ///M! I propose renaming this forum to "E85/6 Z4 M (2002-2008)". The Z3 M variants are properly represented as the "E36/8 M (1998-2003)" sub-forum.
    Thanks!
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    steven s

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    Take a look now.
    How's that?
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    dschultz 07 Z4 M Coupe

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    I'm seeing two forums now. I think the proposal was just to rename the existing one with the E85/6 designation which would be for coupe & roadster. I think.
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    TomF BMW EnthuZiast

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    Ah, no, sorry Steven!

    Just for clarification the chassis designations for the Z3 and Z4 are/were:

    E36/7: Z3 Roadster and M Roadster (1996-2002) (not to be confused with the 3 Series E36 because the Z3 used the E36 chassis)
    E36/8: M Coupe (no Z3 Coupe) (1996-2002) (again, not to be confused with the 3 Series E36)

    During their production the Z3 M Roadster and Z3 M Coupe were originally known only as the M Roadster and the M Coupe (No Z3 designation. It was only after the introduction of the Z4 M Roadster and M Coupe did some people start adding the Z3 added for clarification).

    E85: Z4 Roadster and Z4 M Roadster (2002-2008)
    E86: Z4 Coupe and Z4 M Coupe (2002-2008)

    E89: Z4 Roadster (2009-present, a hardtop convertible, hence no Z4 Coupe)

    In my original request I should have stated that the Z Series "E85 Z4 (2002-2008)" sub-forum should be renamed to "E85 & E86 Z4 (2002-2008)" and the M Series/Z Series "E86 Z4 (2002-2008)" forum should be renamed to "E85 & E86 Z4 M (2002-2008)". Specifying them as the E85 & E86 forum removes the confusion caused by the fact that the two Z3 chassis designations were the E36/7 (Z3 and M Roadster) and the E36/8 (M Coupe).

    Are we completely confuZed now?
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    steven s

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    Z3 chassis was part E30.

    Still confused.
    Shouldn't a Z4 M coupe and Z4 M roadster have separate forums?
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    TomF BMW EnthuZiast

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    The E90/E92/E93 M3 versions (sedan, coupe, convertible) are grouped together, so no, probably not. Although there's no E91 (touring) version! That probably needs to be changed as well!
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    steven s

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    Not in the US.
    Maybe not an M touring.
    Does BMW make anything that they don't stick an M badge on it anymore?

    I combined the two but may regret it.
    No turning back.
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    TomF BMW EnthuZiast

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    I think that we're almost there for the Z4 and Z4 M. I see that you now have a "E85/E86 Z4 M roadster/coupe (2007-2008)" sub-forum in the Model Discussions / M Series / Z Series sub-forum so the Z4 M roadsters and coupes are properly covered.

    All that's left is the non-M Z4 in the Model Discussions / Z Series sub-forum. You have both am "E85 Z4 (2006-2008)" sub-forum and an "E85/6 (2002-2008)" sub-forum. The second one (with no posts) should be deleted and the first one should be titled "E85/E86 Z4 roadster/coupe (2002-2008)". This will properly cover the non-M Z4 roadsters and coupes.

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