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Roll Bar's and Drivers Education

Discussion in 'E36/8 Z3 M coupe (1998-2003)' started by TommyBuckman, Aug 18, 2008.

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    TommyBuckman

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    Got a question for the Group. I am a new BMW owner, and a new member of the BMWCCA, Sandlapper Club in SC. I have a 2000 M Roadster, with the factory roll bars. I want to drive my car in a Porsche Club DE at VIR this fall, yea I know, why with the Porsches? (I use to own a 911 and several of my friends still do!) The Carolina's PCA says that I can not run at VIR because of a no Convertibles rull without having the proper Roll Bar. VIR says if I meet the SCCA Solo 1 specs I am OK. How do I find out if my factory Roll Bars meet those specs? VIR rep says most likely the "Broom Stick" rule would apply. Any thoughts?

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    Z4 Roadsters can usually run in PCA HPDEs "as-is" because they offer the same roll over protection as the Boxster. Granted, though, each local chapter has their own rules. Keep in mind, if you're not a solo driver, then whatever protection you've added for the driver (racing seat, harness, etc) must also exist (or be better) for the passenger for the instructor.
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    TommyBuckman

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    M Roadster at HPDE's

    Thanks for your response. I know it is a hot topic among all Z3, Z4, and BMW Convertible owners. Since the post was last fall, I had already obtained the answer. I was unable to drive my car at that particular VIR event with the Porsche Club, as they said it was a VIR rule. However, I contacted several VIR upper personnel, and they said it was not their rule, but the Clubs. In any event, I decided not to take a chance of going up and losing my money, so I again drove my brother's Highly Modified Track Mustang in Green Group, and got signed off to drive Solo in Blue Group. Would really like to get my car on a track, and move into White Group to drive with my friends and family. My wife feels that I will ruin the look both inside and out of our M Roadster if we put in an appropriate roll bar and harnesses? As much as I love my M Roadster, if I had known all of this up front, I would have bought a different car; probably a M3, Porsche, or Mustang.

    Thanks Again,
    Tommy Buckman
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    MGarrison

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    You could probably pickup a pretty decent E36 M3 between $6-$10k and have a dedicated track toy. I imagine you could find some non-M E36 for even less. Of course, any of them might well need some cash thrown at them to make them trackworthy.

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