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Road Race Your Street Car

Discussion in 'Club Racing' started by Kern Fischer, Mar 26, 2008.

    Kern Fischer guest

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    Sports And Touring CAr Racing (SATCAR) would like to invite interested drivers to attend the Formula Street Fall Series taking place at four tracks in the Midwest. These events offer a safe, cost effective way to get started and continue in road racing.

    Each event will offer run groups for driving school, lapping/practice, race, and lunch time touring - - something for everyone. Drivers will be placed in appropriate groups, depending on track experience.

    SATCAR has created a unique form of competition that provides high levels of safety for drivers and their cars combined with a handicap based scoring system that provides fairness for all drivers. The safety based format allows you to enter these events in your street car, or your race car. The scoring system allows a driver to win with 100 HP or 500 HP.

    SOUND LIKE FUN - IT IS!! More information can be obtained by visiting the SATCAR web site. Register for our mailing list so we can keep in touch.

    For additional information or if you have questions, please call or write:
    Kern Fischer
    Phone: 630-232-6063
    E-mail: kern@satcarracing.com

    toa5tmaster guest

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    where in mid-west?

    snikwad guest

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    with all the trash i got in my trunks, i cant o on track, if i ever take it out for an extended period, id give it a shot if i could tho.

    see avatar for trash in trunk :)

    Kern Fischer guest

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    The SATCAR Fall Series of events will be held on the following schedule:

    Sept. 1 "Speed At The Farms" - Blackhawk Farms Raceway, S. Beloit, IL
    Sept. 27,28 "Grattan G-Fair" - Grattan Raceway, Grattan, MI
    Oct. 18, 19 "ColorFall Sprints" - GingerMan Raceway, South Haven, MI
    Nov. 1,2 "Four Mile Finale" - Road America, Elkhart Lake, WI

    Each of the events will have different run groups for drivers of different experience levels - - something for everyone.

    For more information about SATCAR, the events, the Rules Of Competition, and our driver rewards program, please visit the SATCAR web site at: www.satcarracing.com.
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    BMWCCA1

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    Let's get this straight: This is racing, on a track, wheel-to-wheel, without roll cages, no passing in curves, but what penalties for abuse of your rules by the street-racers you're pitching this to? If some yahoo causes an accident, compensation for damage is at the mutual agreement of all parties? And the sanctioning organization isn't responsible in any way, or involved in any litigation, and can't be sued?

    snikwad guest

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    Teampromotion does car driver training events.

    I plan to give them a shot once I have a suitable car.

    Kern Fischer guest

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    Responding to BMWCCA1,

    Thank you for your questions and comments. I welcome the opportunity to bring more awareness to drivers regarding the SATCAR program. I assume from your signature that you probably have had the opportunity to attend some BMW CCA driving schools. This concept grew from those schools. The basic format for SATCAR events and the level of safety for drivers and their cars is similar to that of BMW CCA driving schools.

    I have been around sports car competitive activities for over 40 years but could never afford to compete at the level that I would have liked. Through time I watched the costs continue to escalate to where only a relative few could compete in the events and only the very wealthy could compete at a top level. Money was frequently more important than talent. Now, even kart racing at a competitive level requires significant monetary commitment.

    Based upon experience, I was invited to become an instructor at BMW CCA driving schools and eventually taught both classroom and in-car for various chapters of BMW CCA and for a commercial school called Track Time.

    At some point the thought occurred to me that we were putting a lot of cars on track every weekend at these driving schools, most were street cars, drivers had varying experience levels, and incidents were not frequent. At the schools I attended, I never saw a multi-car incident. The question I asked is whether I could take the rules format of the driving schools and use it as a basis for a form of competition where drivers could enter their street cars with relative safety. This would remove a lot of the up-front and continuing costs of racing and allow more drivers to become involved.

    I combined the rules structure with a unique handicap type timing and scoring system to make the competition fair for all drivers, whether they bring 100 HP or 500 HP to the event. Car preparation levels have less effect on the results than does driving skill.

    Before getting deeply involved in the development of this concept, a meeting was held that included a very experienced SCCA racer and official, a track manager, and Tony Phelps, Motorsport Manager for K & K Insurance. After explaining the concept and having some discussion, I asked Tony if K & K would insure this type of event. He said that they positively would and our rates would be similar to driving schools.

    Safety will always remain # 1 priority with us, as it is at the BMW CCA events. To that end, drivers must have driving school or equivalent track experience prior to being issued a competition license, we will be constantly monitoring the activities of all drivers for unsafe or overly aggressive driving, and appropriate penalties will be assessed. We cannot afford to get a reputation for loosely run and unsafe events. Drivers would not want to enter and our insurance rates would become too great.

    We may get some drivers who have an attitude, want to make their own rules and drive beyond what is prudent. These will be dealt with on an individual basis and they will be excluded from future activities with us, if appropriate. Please refer to the Penalties section of the Rules Of Competition.

    During the development of the concept we have had five events. There were no issues with driver misbehavior and drivers came away very satisfied with the level of fun and competition.

    There were three off-track incidents, one of which involved some sheet metal damage. The driver was a BMW CCA member, with track experience, in an M3. Previous run groups had spins and off course excursions on turn 1 due to a cold and low friction track surface and drivers were warned to be cautious. This driver lost it on the first turn of the first hot lap of his session and hit the inside guard rail.

    I provided the details only to make the point that mistakes can occur to even experienced drivers with proper attitudes and are not confined to yahoos.

    I welcome the opportunity for further discussion and questions, either on this forum or privately. Anyone can reach me at the following mail or phone listings: Kern Fischer
    Phone: 630-232-6063
    E-mail: kern@satcarracing.com

    As a final note - - do not go to the track for any activities assuming that your car insurance is in effect!!!! Many companies are now adding exclusions for any on-track activities, including driving schools and lunch time touring. I just received my notice and if a tire of my car rolls onto a racing surface, the car is not insured.

    mowens guest

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    This type of activity appeals to me very much, but you gotta come a little further south before I can participate. I have been out to Texas Motor Speedway twice with the folks at Texas Driving Experience, and had a GREAT time. Their liability rules are similar, but there is no competition element. I will keep watching, and hope to participate sometime in the future. Keep up the good work!!

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    It'd be nice if you came to the west coast as well. Also what is the minimum age to participate in these kinda of activities?

    Kern Fischer guest

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    Thank you for your interest and comments.

    SATCAR will eventually get to other areas of the country, as the plan is to make this a nationwide, perhaps worldwide, program. The offering of events in a given area will depend upon driver interest in that area and upon us being able to find an Event Partner who will be responsible for planning and presenting the events at their local track. Think of it as a McDonalds franchise to run track events.

    I would suggest that any interested drivers go to the SATCAR web site (www.satcarracing.com) and register for our mailing list. This will allow us to keep you updated as the program develops in your area. It also lets us see where the interested drivers are located so we can prioritize our organizing activities to reach the greatest number of interested drivers.
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    CRKrieger

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    Resurrecting an old thread ...

    This is the first I've heard about this, Kern. So how are the plans for it going as you approach your first race? If there isn't too much snow, I would be interested in seeing your last (November) event - if you'll let me in. ;)

    For Phil, this format sounds more like a driver school with timing, or a Solo I event with multiple cars and passing rules, than door-to-door racing. It's also somewhat akin to pro rally, with the timed interval starting rules and no restrictions on catching other cars on the stage. Interesting and different, in a road course format.

    It strikes me as an almost logical response to the street insurance companies' restrictions against setting a wheel on track for whatever purpose. I mean, if they think we're all out there racing, why shouldn't we? It is coming to the point where I will have to buy additional event insurance to instruct ...

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